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endecker
05-25-2006, 08:02 PM
Just started reading "The Final Days" by Woodward and Bernstein, chronicling the last 100 days of the Nixon administration.

Jesus, was that guy ever a douchebag! I mean, serious, serious personal problems...

It doesn't just talk about the Watergate thing, but his paranoia, pissy attitude, irrationality, bizarre sense of humour, and discloses his (presumably Watergate-inspired) suicidal insistence on lack of protection as he rode in an open-top car in front of hundreds of thousands of people in the Middle East, at the same time as he had a blood-clot that could have detached and worked its way into his heart, lungs or brain, any of which would have killed him in seconds.

Check it out...




...The President often confused the names of close aides and even Cabinet members. He had once addressed Secretary of Agriculture Butz as 'Wally' instead of 'Earl'. Wally Butz had been head football coach at the University of Georgia.

...Bull remembered the occasion when the President was working a large crowd at an airport. A little girl had waved to him vigorously, shouting "How is Smokey the Bear?" (Smokey resided at the Washington Zoo.) The President smiled to her and turned away, but she kept waving and inquiring. Unable to make out what she was saying Nixon turned to Bull, who whispered "Smokey the Bear, Washington National Zoo." The President walked over, took her hand and said "How do you do, Miss Bear?"

...The man couldn't take it much longer, Cox said. The Pesident had been acting irrationally.
Griffin interrupted to say that he had been to meetings with the President recently, and Nixon had been rational.
That was the problem, Cox said. The President went up and down. He came from meetings and was not rational, although he had been fine at the meeting.
"The President," Cox began. His voice rose temporarily. "The President was up walking the halls last night, talking to pictures of former presidents - giving speeches and talking to the pictures on the wall."

...Nixon spent most of the day by himself. At 6:30 pm he boarded the presidential yacht Sequoia for a trip down the Potomac. He sent his strip steak back to the galley because there was fat on it. A steward cut the fat off and returned it to the President, who sat alone at the dining table, gazing out at the shoreline.

...It was dusk. The four men walked to the bow of the Sequoia for a ceremony prescribed by Navy regulation. As they stood in the wind, the boat's bells tolled eight time at five-second intervals. Taps was played. A recording of the national anthem was broadcast.
The President turned to St. Clair and said "They pay you nickels and dimes, but this is what makes it worth it."
His voice carried very clearly. Haig, and the lawyers, and members of the crew looked away in embarrassed silence.

...Early in 1970 the President returned an NSC briefing paper on the visit to China of Laotian Premier Phouma and other Southeast Asian leaders. The President's margin notation was clearly written. "Bomb them," it said. On another occasion, Nixon was presented a serious NSC option paper on Korea that contained a series of mutually exclusive alternatives, and he had checked all of them.

endecker
05-25-2006, 08:04 PM
...During another telephone call, Kissinger mentioned the number of American casualties in a major battle in Vietnam. "Oh, screw 'em," said Nixon.

...The President greeted him (his physician) perfunctorily and pulled up his left pant leg. Tkach could see that the leg was inflamed and swollen. He examined the leg more closely...Phlebitis. The clot could break loose and move to his heart or lungs. That could be fatal. Continuing the (Middle East) trip was a senseless risk, Tkach told him. Strain from extended standing, climbing stairs, long walks, even crossing his legs might free the clot.

...Ziegler estimated that two million people had turned out (to see the royal train pass)...Lukash was horrified when he saw the President. Nixon, in total disregard of his physician's advice, was standing in the open-sided Victorian observation car waving to the crowd...Lukash could see that the President was doing his best to disguise great pain.

...Secret Service agents scanned the crowds almost desperately. Reports were coming in of a terrorist raid on an Israeli kibbutz, in which three women had been killed. In Beirut a Palestinian terrorists group was taking credit for the attack. "That is how every Arab should recieve Nixon, the chief imperialist in the world," its communique said. Despie the massive presence of heavily armed Egyptian security forces, the President's exposure to the huge crowds seemed a senseless risk to the Secret Service contingent.
Dr. Tkach sought out Dick Keiser, head of the presidential-protection unit of the Secret Service, and expressed his alarm at Nixon's behaviour.
"You can't protect a President who wants to kill himself," Keiser responded.

(On Nixon's return, addressing his speech-writer, Dave Gergen, who hadn't been on the trip)
I used a lot of your stuff," he said, "Not all of it, of course. You understand."
Gergen nodded.
"Now that you've had this experience, would you like to be an ambassador?" Nixon asked.
Gergen, thirty-three years old, didn't know what to say. The idea was preposterous.
The President asked him if he spoke French.
"Not very well."
"Then I'll have to send you to Iraq." Nixon said.

wadekoehler
05-25-2006, 08:31 PM
yeah he was made fun of and picked on a lot during his childhood which is why he didnt trust anybody but his wife

endecker
05-25-2006, 08:35 PM
yeah he was made fun of and picked on a lot during his childhood which is why he didnt trust anybody but his wife

Maybe so, but apparently they had a distant relationship for soem reason towards the end of his term. In the last few years in office, they even slept in separate beds.

wadekoehler
05-25-2006, 09:26 PM
oh i didnt know that, he really was a creepy guy though. sounds like an interesting book you got there!

beach
05-25-2006, 09:32 PM
There is quite a difference between irrational behavior that is psychosis-induced and that, which is part of one’s personality. I feel sorry for the poor guy.

endecker
05-25-2006, 09:36 PM
oh i didnt know that, he really was a creepy guy though. sounds like an interesting book you got there!

It's OK...bit of a chore, and I only got it by accident. I was looking for Woodward and Bernstein's book on Watergate, which I'd heard good things about (won the Pulitzer) but not read, and the librarian directed me to this.

I've just learned from a friend, though, that the book that won the Pulitzer was actually a totally separate one by the same authors, "All the President's Men". D'oh! :happy

endecker
05-25-2006, 09:45 PM
There is quite a difference between irrational behavior that is psychosis-induced and that, which is part of one’s personality. I feel sorry for the poor guy.

You've said something similar about me when my back was turned...

The fact that Endecker asked to be banned for good reason is not proof that he has not lost his mind. :f2

Start feeling sorry for yourself, Beach! You just crossed a Scotsman for teh last time1!1!!!one!!

beach
05-25-2006, 10:59 PM
You've said something similar about me when my back was turned...

Originally Posted by beach
The fact that Endecker asked to be banned for good reason is not proof that he has not lost his mind. :f2


Start feeling sorry for yourself, Beach! You just crossed a Scotsman for teh last time1!1!!!one!!
Crap, I thought I'd be able to sneak that one by while you were on vacation! :happy

Hey, BTW, I figured out why that little skirt those Scottish guy's wear is called a "kilt".

I almost got "kilt" the last time I called it a skirt!

Scotsmen don't play that shit! :eyesteef

endecker
05-25-2006, 11:19 PM
Crap, I thought I'd be able to sneak that one by while you were on vacation! :happy

Hey, BTW, I figured out why that little skirt those Scottish guy's wear is called a "kilt".

I almost got "kilt" the last time I called it a skirt!

Scotsmen don't play that shit! :eyesteef

Kilt?

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"...that's nuhhin', ma ancestors used tae gohw intae ba'tle, in full-length ball-gowns wi' matchin' sequins!"

beach
05-25-2006, 11:26 PM
Kilt?

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/4404/willie2tj.th.jpg (http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=willie2tj.jpg)

"...that's nuhhin', ma ancestors used tae gohw intae ba'tle, in full-length ball-gowns wi' matchin' sequins!"

That's so freakin' hot! :uop

endecker
05-26-2006, 11:10 AM
To return to the thread briefly, if I may -

- it seems Henry Kissinger was a bit of a douchebag as well:


...On occasion he expressed enthusiasm at the size of the bomb craters that American B-52s left in North Vietnam...When Anthony Lake, his executive assistant, questioned the bombing policies, Kissinger ridiculed him. In a long discussion that grew heated, Kissinger said that Lake's approach to the war was "not manly enough".

...Kissinger's inability to manage either personal relationships or staff organisation ("He couldn't even recognise his own senior staff members on the street," Coleman Hicks once remarked) became an accepted fact of life in the White House basement.

...(General Haig, chief of staff) tolerated with superhuman strength the abuse that Kissinger heaped upon him.
"Only someone schooled in taking shit could put up with it," Hicks observed to his colleagues.
In Haig's presence, Kissinger referred pointedly to military men as "dumb, stupid animals to be used" as pawns for foreign policy. Kissinger often took up a post outside the doorway to Haig's office and dressed him down in front of the secretaries for alleged acts of incompetence with which Haig was not even remotely involved. Once when the Air Force was authorized to resume bombing of North Vietnam, the planes did not fly because of bad weather. Kissinger assailed Haig. He complained bitterly that the generals had been screaming for the limits to be taken off but that now their pilots were afraid to go up in a little fog.

...On another occasion, when Haig was leaving for a trip to Cambodia to meet with Premier Lon Nol, Kissinger escorted him to a staff car, where reporters and a retinue of aides waited. As Haig bent to get in the automobile, Kissinger stopped him and began polishing the single star on his shoulder. "Al, if you're a good boy, I'll get you another one," he said.

...He seemed to thrive on trouble, hysteria, fright, uncertainty. He raged at the secretaries. He appeared to take pleasure in humiliating his aides, once excluding his ranking deputy, Helmut Sonnenfeldt, from a ceremonial picture-taking session with the words "Not you, Hal, you're not important enough."